JKCalhoun 9 hours ago

I've been scanning and cleaning up a 200 page book that is a collection of "Travel Mats" that were printed during the Route 66 heyday [1].

Each focuses on a specific highway and list motel and diner stops.

[1] Example: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F...

I should have it done and posted to archive.org this Fall sometime.

  • 0xEF 3 hours ago

    Really appreciate work like this, thank you.

    My wife is the creator in the relationship, making a variety of apparel and decorative things for the home. She takes a huge amount of inspiration in her designs from Midcentury stuff like this, so she'll be thrilled when I share this with her.

comrade1234 9 hours ago

Reminds me of this collection of Chinese menus in North America dating back to 1896: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-worlds-largest-col...

It was collected by a private collector in New York then recently sold to the university of Toronto. I first heard about it it maybe a decade ago and have been waiting for a coffee table book since.

I would also be interested in recipes to go with the historic menus. For example dishes with sweet and sour have changed a lot from more liquid and vinagery to the goopy sweet mess we get now.

rorylaitila 4 hours ago

Very cool. I found some vintage ads at an antique shop a decade ago... and now I have over 100k in inventory. I had to limit the collecting to only major publications. There is so much vintage paper to be found. But I'd like to find some placements with local ads if such a thing exists.

Last year I started publishing full page ads from the collection, I've got about 1000 online (https://adretro.com).

  • bkandel 3 hours ago

    This is fascinating! Would it be possible to add some explanations for some of the gay ads? I feel a little clueless but I don't really understand why some of those are targeting the gay community.

    • rorylaitila 3 hours ago

      Thanks! Maybe I'll add some detail. Some of them are in the eye of the beholder, and maybe I take a little liberty :) It's not that they are targeting the gay community directly, but they may have subtle homoerotic wink and a nod... They definitely are not overt and would have gone over the heads of most people at the time.

bluenose69 an hour ago

The cleanest one caught my eye, and then I read that it was a restaurant, Cy's, that was in Moncton, NB, about half an hour's drive from where I grew up. Although I never ate there, seeing that brought back fond childhood memories of the grownups talking about crossing the border to eat there.

daryn 25 minutes ago

Love this! Menu design has really lost a lot of it's art, especially with online ordering.

creddit 4 hours ago

I think the Cliff's mat is quite attractive actually.

However, my favorite by far, is the Greenville Lodge! Such a pretty looking graphic but if you look closely at the address/location information you see "Opposite Du Pont Plant"! That's fantastically mid-century to me. It's like a subtle joke you would've seen on Mad Men.

My first impression from that mat was that it was AI generated hah

twic 7 hours ago

The Ranch House (Central Pier, Atlantic City, NJ) offers a jelly omelette. A jelly omelette! Sounds mad to me but it's a thing:

https://ahundredyearsago.com/2021/10/17/old-fashioned-jelly-...

EDIT: a postcard from the Ranch House: https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:x920...

  • timeinput 3 hours ago

    If you like your eggs as a jellied omelette are you still "Sturdy, Reliable, Conservative" like THE BROOKSIDE RESTAURANT says?

  • mhuffman 6 hours ago

    When you realize that they make sweet crêpes just like this, it isn't so weird. It is like a fat sweet crêpe!

stronglikedan 3 hours ago

That Florida one looks so familiar, that I'm sure I've visited someplace that used it. Or perhaps I'm just thinking of the maps of Italy that used to be popular on the placemats of Italian restaurants.

jihadjihad 9 hours ago

The IHOP one is great, almost looks like a poster for a midcentury film, like John Ford or something.

CGMthrowaway 9 hours ago

This is a great collection. I'd love to print up a custom one for hosting purposes. Anyone know a supplier who makes these off the shelf? Or will I have to work with a local print shop.

  • bombcar 9 hours ago

    Depends on how realistic you want it to be. Even a Kinko’s or whatever they call it now can print on a large piece of paper and you can get a tool to cut the edges and curled ways. But if you really want that quasi-white newspaper feel- you’re gonna have to find a supplier who can get you the paper.

easton 9 hours ago

Until this point I didn't know Big Tex was real and not just something in King of the Hill. And I've been to Texas!

Guess it's time to go back.

Theodores 8 hours ago

These hark back to a time before franchises took over. Nowadays, anyone wanting a restaurant (and customers) is obligated to make it a McDonalds (or other well known chain). If they don't, then McBigChain comes to town and they have no customers.

What is odd about this state of affairs is that everyone wants Mom and Pop, family owned, unique diners, however, where do people go when the kids in the back want their Happy Meals? You always know what you are going to get in a chain, and that is the magic of franchising.

  • Hilift 8 hours ago

    There was a really good "chain" in the 1960s southeast US called Davis House (or Davis Brothers). It was a more upscale version of a restaurant that served mainly Kentucky Fried Chicken, although there was many other dishes.

    "The restaurant was originally named Johnny Reb's Chick-Chuck-'N'-Shake, and was sold in 1966 to A. T. Davis, Tubby's brother, who became a franchisee of Col. Harlan Sanders' Kentucky Fried Chicken."

    http://www.highwayhost.org/DavisBros/davisbros1.htm

    https://mistercola.com/products/vintage-placemat-davis-broth...

  • MisterTea 8 hours ago

    > however, where do people go when the kids in the back want their Happy Meals?

    Where ever the parent decides to go.

  • kevin_thibedeau 8 hours ago

    These restaurants still exist in the US, in some regions more than others. Usually the placemats are loaded with ads for local businesses now and less interesting.

    • mikestew 5 hours ago

      Placemats have been covered in ads for local businesses since I was a kid. I’m retirement age now, it’s hardly new.

    • Theodores 8 hours ago

      They certainly do, however, there is just a menacing progression of these chains taking over. My parents home town in the UK used to be devoid of chains but now there is KFC, Subway, McDonalds, Dominos, Starbucks and some UK specific chains such as Greggs (sticky buns, sandwiches) and Costa (coffee).

      Due to the decline of the High Street, there are always independent cafes, sandwich shops and coffee shops that come and go. These take advantage of the spots that used to be where decent shops that used to be. However, few of them have enough customers to last more than a year or two.

      On the surface there is more choice than ever. However, the best bakery in town closed down as they couldn't balance the books any more. There also used to be several fish and chips shops and they went too, although it has to be said that there are no longer any fish in British waters, so that is no surprise.

      Retail is always in flux, however, the place is turning into a veritable 'food desert' with a choice between junk food slop and pretentious gentrified expense, with no middle ground.

      America is different because you do get places in the sparsely populated West where passing trade will support a diner, gas station and general store but not a gaggle of franchised chains. If the interstate comes to town though, you know that will change.

      • Ichthypresbyter 6 hours ago

        My favorite diner is just off an Interstate exit in Connecticut. I'm pretty sure it opened after the Interstate highway was built.

        Whenever I'm in there, it seems busy. Part of the USP is that it's open 24/7 (something increasingly rare)...

        • InitialLastName 5 hours ago

          Tell me it's Blue Colony, because that's also one of my favorites. Packed at all times, but the food is perfect for a road trip break.

      • technothrasher 5 hours ago

        My small New England town has McDonalds, Burger King, Subway, KFC, Chick-fil-a, Applebee's... and yet the independent diners are still always packed. The big box retailers have certainly driven off a lot of the local retail, but I don't think New Englanders are anywhere near ready yet to give up the local diner.

      • timeinput 3 hours ago

        I don't know how the town I live in can some how support two Greggs, a Starbucks, two Caffe Neros (Caffes Nero?), a Pret A Manger, and a Costa Coffee all with in a few hundred meters of each other, but the local bakery that opened a second location in the train station (basically on the high street) couldn't keep it open. At least the bakery still exists, just not in the center of town, and not where I'm getting on a train.

        • kevin_thibedeau 2 hours ago

          > not in the center of town

          The rent is likely set assuming deep pocketed chains will be the only tenants. No surprise when they end up as the only tenants.

          • timeinput 36 minutes ago

            I'm sure you're right.

            It's just meant there isn't a coffee shop at the train station for six months. Greggs doesn't want to open a third branch there sadly.

    • GJim 8 hours ago

      > Usually the placemats are loaded with ads

      Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that is a thing in America.

  • supportengineer 7 hours ago

    There's plenty of nice mom-and-pop diners in my town, you can get a nice breakfast for about $25 per person.

jmclnx 7 hours ago

Very nice, I got a chuckle from the one that said "How do you want your eggs".

In the 80s where I worked, we had a large project to enhance the systems to our plant in Ireland. So for a couple of months a team from Ireland came here to the US to work with us.

The question "How do you want your eggs" at a breakfast place confused them to no end. Seems at the time in Ireland, eggs only were cooked one way, kind of like pouched. I do not know if that is now still true.

  • KineticLensman 7 hours ago

    (Brit here). When I used to travel to the US for work / holidays I was always amazed at how many breakfast options were available compared with UK ‘greasy spoon’ cafes. I used to make it a game to try to order breakfast specifying all the choices I wanted without the waiter having to ask me any questions.

  • bombela 7 hours ago

    Coming from France, the first time I was asked how I would like my eggs in the US I was incredibly confused. In France the menu would list the different cooking style the kitchen is offering explicitly. Many times they don't tell, it's whatever the kitchen chef decided was appropriate for the dish. In France it is also uncommon for the kitchen to customize the menu to your preference.

  • twic 5 hours ago

    Had a similar experience when i first went to the US. Apparently "fried" was not an adequate answer, because there are numerous ways to do that.

  • pessimizer 6 hours ago

    I'd just like to add to this little subthread that short-order cooking had a lot to do with this - it's the intermediate step we went through between family restaurants and fast food. When I think of a single person standing at his station making 100 customized meals for people over the space of a couple of hours, that's my idea of "socialism" working.

    Incredibly hard to find real documentation on how short-order cooks work, but the best resource I've found (though brief) is Fast Foods and Short Order Cooking, by Pepper, Pratt and Winnick (1984). I've been dreaming about writing a manual for years, but I'd have to find some shifu to teach me. I was a grill cook (as a young person), but never had to handle the entire thing.

    • jmclnx 4 hours ago

      My cousin owned a dinner years ago. Finding a good short order cook was the hardest thing for her to do.

      He son eventually took over and developed that skill quite well.